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Poster: cream-puff-war Date: Apr 22, 2008 6:06pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: 1-20-1970 "Love Scene" Jerry Garcia

something you don't hear (or see) everyday is the lovely little noodle played by Garcia called "Love Scene", from Zabriskie Point (the 1970 Antonioni movie).


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Poster: He Live's Date: Nov 25, 2007 8:29pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 1-20-1970 'Love Scene' Jerry Garcia

again...i have heard the soundtrack but not the movie....i think the music is about 1000 times as interesting as the music + the movie...but it's cool to see how it was put together

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Poster: Arbuthnot Date: Nov 25, 2007 9:36pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 1-20-1970 'Love Scene' Jerry Garcia

i think i watched this film around 1985 or so, but the exact year escapes me, but really, it's beside the point; if you are like me, or like anyone trying discover the 'essence' of the preceding generations that spawned you, there is this fascination with what came before, an indefinable kernel that seems just within reach, but forever ungraspable; no matter what you read, no matter what you listen to; sadly, it is not possible, you either live it or you did not; for me, coming to age in the mid to late '70s, i was so struck and awed by the preceding generation of the '60s, i would yearn for some impression or definition that brought the whole picture home to me; it was small things, like my babysitter Karen showing up with this banana shaped radio, and the one image i have of her, besides her coolness, is that she would hook her thumbs into her jeans, and even at seven or eight years of age, i thought it so incredibly cool, i loved her; anyway, what i am trying to say, that for the past 25 plus years i have been trying to connect in some way with the '60s; perhaps it's a futile effort, perhaps it's nothing more than a silly diversion; but it's real, it persistently nags at the back of my mind, much in the same way that the Sinatra era does, the suave '40s & '50s, and the singular sounds that emanated from that gestation; oh, i don't know, i'm just hunting

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Poster: tree-ap Date: Nov 26, 2007 7:30am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 1-20-1970 'Love Scene' Jerry Garcia

Sorry to pick up on such a small part of your post, but I was IN LOVE with ALL of my babysitters as a kid---they were ALL foxy! Oh, Debbie & Jan...if you only knew.

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Poster: cream-puff-war Date: Nov 25, 2007 11:43pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 1-20-1970 'Love Scene' Jerry Garcia

Arb wrote:

"...for me, coming to age in the mid to late '70s, i was so struck and awed by the preceding generation of the '60s, i would yearn for some impression or definition that brought the whole picture home to me; it was small things, like my babysitter Karen showing up with this banana shaped radio, and the one image i have of her, besides her coolness, is that she would hook her thumbs into her jeans, and even at seven or eight years of age, i thought it so incredibly cool, i loved her..."

priceless!

I totally concur, relate, copy that.

I too came of age in the '70s, and wanted to get a feel for the '60s I had missed, having been too young to runaway to the Hashbury or hang with the Angels with Kesey's pad down the Peninsula or jump on the Prankster's "Further" bus or cut school and go to the Human Be-In.

So when I saw a girl walking down Market St. in '69 with humongus bell bottoms - the bells were 4 feet wide or seemed like it - I fell in love!

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Poster: buffalo69 Date: Nov 25, 2007 10:40pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 1-20-1970 'Love Scene' Jerry Garcia

The dark Star is awesome, and the films pretty cool too and as far as the love scene goes...artsy,fartsy,poo, poo. give me less foreplay and way more frontal nudity from the chick.

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Poster: Tito the Attention Whore Date: Nov 26, 2007 6:45pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: beef it low 69 is my sak a shit

give me less foreplay and way more frontal nudity from the chick hearn. not only do yew want to bang basketball playas. yew want the full monty from chick hearn. kinky bitch.

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Poster: cream-puff-war Date: Nov 25, 2007 11:03pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 1-20-1970 'Love Scene' Jerry Garcia

try, Arb, to watch the flick "The Glenn Miller Story" with Jimmy Stewart playing a spot on version of Miller.

The point being, that swing (pre-be-bop) music (and of course, Sinatra was the king of the swing vocalists I guess) is really good.

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Poster: Arbuthnot Date: Nov 25, 2007 11:13pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 1-20-1970 'Love Scene' Jerry Garcia

thanks cream-puff, i'll hunt that bastard down if it's the last thing i do, because as they say, it ain't nothin' if it don't have that swing; Glenn Miller was a phenom that i was into long before Jerry hit the scene; voila!

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Poster: sydthecat2 Date: Apr 23, 2008 8:56am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 1-20-1970 'Love Scene' Jerry Garcia

I saw Zabriskie Point as part of an Italian Film course. I'm very impressed that Cream Puff War got a print from Antonioni!! I think the new version of the film out on DVD has the entire film as the director wanted it released. I recall being very surprised by the Garcia 'love theme" piece and am pretty sure the Dark Star snippet is the one from Live Dead.

Yes, the house blows up at the end of the film and I do believe to the music of Pink Floyd (Atom Heart Mother?). More is a completely different film with an entirely original score composed by Pink Floyd. The soundtrack is available as an album. I think Floyd were supposed to do a score for Zabriskie Point but they didn't get along with Antonioni or he changed his mind or drove them nuts by not making up his mind what he wanted . Anyway he ended up using other sources...can't quite remember.

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Poster: Stealz Date: Nov 26, 2007 8:29am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 1-20-1970 'Love Scene' Jerry Garcia

The Glenn Miller Story is a GREAT movie!!!

Pardon me boys, is that the Chatanooga Choo-Choo?
Yeah, Yeah,
Prop 29!

Thanks for the reminder!

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Poster: William Tell Date: Nov 26, 2007 6:44am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 60s Heritage--you took the words outta my mouth...

Yep, Arb--just as CPW said...growing up in the Bay Area with two older brothers you describe my coming of age days as well. Hearing the DEAD from the parents car in GGPark as they let my brothers go for the day...and all that followed.

Have seen bits and pieces of the flick; have to keep an eye for it.

Thanks one and all above for the interesting comments; the forum lives again.

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Poster: light into ashes Date: Nov 26, 2007 3:55am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 1-20-1970 'Love Scene' Jerry Garcia

I like the film, but the soundtrack has always been a thing of joy & wonder for me. Garcia mixed with Floyd mixed with old-style country tunes.

As for the '60s, I wish I was there, but I probably wouldn't remember it. Or wouldn't want to. But the music those folks left behind!
One nice way to 'capture' the decade, better than through its movies, is the TV pop-music shows with their wide variety of bands. The go-go dancers are just so cute!

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Poster: Arbuthnot Date: Nov 25, 2007 8:21pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 1-20-1970 'Love Scene' Jerry Garcia

very interesting flick, what always surprised me is that neither of the two principal actors ever really did much else; thanks for those links though

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Poster: MalcolmO Date: Nov 25, 2007 8:39pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 1-20-1970 'Love Scene' Jerry Garcia

They never did much else because they both died not long after ZP. IIRC, for her it was a car accident and he got into a fight or got shot or something. I suppose the info on both is only a Google away.

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Poster: Arbuthnot Date: Nov 25, 2007 8:45pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 1-20-1970 'Love Scene' Jerry Garcia

Malcolm, thanks for that info, it had been a curiosity of mine way back when, long before google, but i guess that explains it; cheers

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Poster: MalcolmO Date: Nov 25, 2007 10:44pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 1-20-1970 'Love Scene' Jerry Garcia

As it happens, I was wrong on both counts (curse me for a novice!). I checked them both on IMDB. Mark died in prison in 1975 and his info is at:

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0292689/bio

Daria, I'm pleased to say, is teaching movement-based healing arts and was once married to Dennis Hopper. Her info is at:

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0356998/bio

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Poster: Arbuthnot Date: Nov 25, 2007 11:05pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 1-20-1970 'Love Scene' Jerry Garcia

thanks for the update; wouldn't mind finding a copy of this:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0063503/

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Poster: cream-puff-war Date: Nov 25, 2007 11:06pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 1-20-1970 'Love Scene' Jerry Garcia

I've got a copy of the original movie right from the director.

Since then, the movie has been butchered in a new cut that hardly resembles the original 1968 flick.

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Poster: Arbuthnot Date: Nov 25, 2007 11:10pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 1-20-1970 'Love Scene' Jerry Garcia

shit, you're making me salivate; i'll be in touch via e-mail; cheers

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Poster: He Live's Date: Apr 22, 2008 9:59pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 1-20-1970 "Love Scene" Jerry Garcia

nope.....

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Poster: Arbuthnot Date: Nov 25, 2007 8:41pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 1-20-1970 'Love Scene' Jerry Garcia

cream-puff, thanks for those links, first time watching those scenes in something like 25 years; i don't know about you, but when i first watched that film, i was profoundly moved, maybe even affected in some way; is there a clip of the scene with the house on the cliff blowing up, i think with a Pink Floyd background; either way, many thanks for the recollection of my youth

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Poster: cream-puff-war Date: Nov 25, 2007 8:48pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 1-20-1970 'Love Scene' Jerry Garcia

was that the flick called More?

If

Cul-de-Sac

Awakening Of the Beast (Coffin Joe)

Strawberry Statement



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Poster: Arbuthnot Date: Nov 25, 2007 9:25pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 1-20-1970 'Love Scene' Jerry Garcia

i don't know, maybe i did too much you-know-what way back when, but pretty sure it was the same film, Zabriski Point, don't you remember, the near-final scene with the house blowing up? and Pink Floyd on the soundtrack ... don't let me down man!

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Poster: Arbuthnot Date: Nov 25, 2007 9:30pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 1-20-1970 'Love Scene' Jerry Garcia

it's cool, i found the link, lovely stuff for sure

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mh1J2kHjh1A

the Floyd kicks in around 1'45

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Poster: cream-puff-war Date: Nov 25, 2007 10:01pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 1-20-1970 'Love Scene' Jerry Garcia

cool Arb, cuz I never saw Zabrisket!

thx for de link

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Poster: Arbuthnot Date: Nov 25, 2007 10:20pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 1-20-1970 'Love Scene' Jerry Garcia

serious? wow, that's enlightening news for sure ... i just might have to rent it and burn a copy for you; problem is, the vid store in my neighborhood hasn't yet heard of anything less than "blockbuster"; tragedy in the highest sense of the word

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Poster: cream-puff-war Date: Apr 22, 2008 7:07pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 1-20-1970 'Love Scene' Jerry Garcia

Pink Floyd plays at least 2 heavy psych numbers on the MORE movie soundtrack, e.g. "The Nile Song".


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Poster: Arbuthnot Date: Nov 25, 2007 10:33pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 1-20-1970 'Love Scene' Jerry Garcia

lol my friend! psychodelic in the highest sense of the word! ... wish i had a 2nd life to do it all again, lol!

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Poster: Arbuthnot Date: Nov 25, 2007 10:36pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 1-20-1970 'Love Scene' Jerry Garcia

the first link is definitely not Zabriski Point, in fact, i am even wondering if it's Pink Floyd, thinking it might be some other band with a Pink Floyd voice over????

the second link has no visual whatsoever, just music, and while fantastic, where does it leave me????

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Poster: cream-puff-war Date: Apr 22, 2008 9:54pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 1-20-1970 'Love Scene' Jerry Garcia

some of my favorite post-Syd Pink screamers are from More:
"The Nile Song" (first link)
and (the 2nd link was also by Floyd:) "Ibiza Bar".




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Poster: Arbuthnot Date: Nov 25, 2007 11:07pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 1-20-1970 'Love Scene' Jerry Garcia

well, that explains it, i'll have to hunt down the movie 'more' and get back to you; problem is, i live in a cultural vacuum and no car ...

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Poster: cream-puff-war Date: Apr 22, 2008 7:25pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 1-20-1970 'Love Scene' Jerry Garcia

hey now, More co-stars Mimsy Farmer - see Riot On Sunset Strip (1967)
and Hot Rods To Hell (1967) for more Mimsy!

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